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- ┬ WORLD, Page 41INTERVIEWFacing a No-Win Scenario
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- With his popularity at an all-time high, King Hussein is
- desperately seeking peace in the gulf. He says both war and
- economic sanctions could destroy Jordan.
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- By DEAN FISCHER and JAMES WILDE AMMAN and King Hussein
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- If the crisis in the gulf becomes a shooting war, Jordan
- could be the first Arab country to perish. Precariously
- situated between the borders of Iraq, Israel and Saudi Arabia,
- the kingdom of 3.5 million, Jordanians fear, would be
- obliterated in the cross fire. King Hussein knows that if
- Israeli forces were drawn into the fighting, there would be
- little to stop them from marching into Jordan and declaring the
- entire country a Palestinian homeland. Such an invasion could
- cause so much devastation and economic chaos that the
- half-Palestinian, half-Bedouin country might disintegrate into
- warring factions.
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- Bad as war would be for Jordan, a continuation of the
- present standoff would be only slightly less disastrous.
- Already burdened with the cost of absorbing 150,000 Jordanians
- who were expelled from Kuwait and Iraq, the country is facing
- a fiscal crisis of calamitous proportions. According to
- government figures, the United Nations-ordered embargo of Iraq,
- where 70% of Jordan's exports go, could cost up to $4 billion
- in lost revenues this year. Tourists, who brought in more than
- $500 million last year, have virtually disappeared. The
- sanctions have idled the once thriving port of Aqaba, and
- shipments of fruits and vegetables are rotting at the border.
- Deprived of access to foreign markets, Jordan's agricultural
- and industrial sectors are beginning to atrophy. While food
- bins in Amman remain full, the possibility of shortages looms
- closer each day.
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- The Saudis, angered by the King's criticism of the presence
- of U.S. troops in the region, have halted all oil exports to
- Jordan. Despite the U.N. embargo, Amman continues to get 80%
- of its oil from Iraq, which is credited against Baghdad's $310
- million debt to Jordan at the less than market rate of $16 per
- bbl. But fuel purchases on the open market this year could
- total nearly $900 million.
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- International assistance to cushion these blows has been
- slow in coming. The kingdom has received only $4 million of the
- $50 million pledged by international relief organizations to
- help it cope with the flood of refugees. While Washington has
- agreed to deliver the $50 million it pledged to Jordan before
- the crisis, Amman has yet to collect any money from the U.S.,
- which resents Hussein's ambiguity toward Saddam. Most
- Jordanians believe that significant relief from the West will
- come only if Hussein subscribes wholeheartedly to the U.S.
- position.
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- That is unlikely to happen. The King's popularity is at an
- all-time high, primarily because he refuses to take a hard line
- against Saddam, whom Jordanians respect for standing up to the
- U.S. and Israel. Even Jordan's normally fractious trade unions
- have put their differences aside and pledged to take cuts in
- wages to support what they call Saddam's "just Arab cause." A
- highly placed Jordanian official warns that the longer the U.S.
- stays in the gulf, "the bigger hero Saddam Hussein will
- become." He says that despite Iraq's aggression, Jordanians
- feel that the preservation of an Arab community of nations is
- infinitely preferable to war. "People are counting on King
- Hussein to get us out in one piece," he says. "He is probably
- the only one who can do it."
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- Hussein, who retains absolute authority over defense and
- foreign affairs despite his country's cautious development of
- democratic institutions, ascribes Jordan's pro-Iraq tilt to
- "the people's will." For the moment, the King has the support
- of the populace, and he has vowed to "respect that trust." But
- that leaves him facing a painful dilemma: he can either stick
- to his present course and suffer economic collapse or denounce
- Saddam and risk the wrath of his own people. In the midst of
- his indefatigable efforts to find a way out, the King last week
- shared his views with two TIME correspondents.
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- Q. The gulf crisis is now three months old. Will there be
- war, or is there still a chance for peace?
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- A. I believe there is still a chance for peace, but it must
- be pursued by all of us. I am certainly committed to doing so.
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- Q. Do you think President Bush, King Fahd and President
- Saddam are equally committed to a peaceful outcome?
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- A. I can't really speak for others, but I think there are
- signs coming out of Iraq at this time that suggest a readiness
- to move toward a peaceful and secure region. The only problem
- is that there seems to have been an embargo on dialogue and
- readiness to compromise.
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- Q. You don't subscribe to the notion that a military strike
- by the U.S. could bring about a quick end to the problem?
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- A. The U.S. possesses the most modern weapons of war in the
- world. But I can't see how the Iraqis are not expecting that,
- and preparing, possibly, to receive the first blow and then
- strike back. I believe the losses are going to be horrendous
- in terms of lives, damage to the infrastructure, oil. Also,
- there will be other damage: the fact that there are foreign
- troops, even in the country that is the custodian of the holy
- places. There is also great agitation over the lack of progress
- on the Palestinian problem and the fact that the status of
- Jerusalem is still unresolved. If war occurs, the damage will
- be felt throughout the Muslim and Arab world. What is the
- purpose? The destruction of Iraq? What kind of a result is
- that? The region would be driven toward greater extremism, and
- I really can't see what benefit anyone would derive.
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- Q. Saddam also has weapons of mass destruction. Is not the
- crux of all this the fear that Saddam is a loose cannon with
- terrible weapons that must be eliminated?
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- A. This is in the minds of many in the Western world. But
- weapons of mass destruction are available everywhere. If there
- is a resolution of the Iraq-Kuwait problem, if the world is
- moving toward a new world order, then the same principles
- should apply to the Arab-Israeli problem. Then it would also
- be possible and necessary to remove weapons of mass destruction
- in the entire region. I think there is readiness on the Arab
- side. But is there any guarantee that Israel might not use
- nuclear weapons?
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- Q. Must these issues be linked?
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- A. I am not suggesting that they should be addressed
- simultaneously, but I am suggesting that there should be
- readiness to resolve all these problems.
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- Q. Why won't Saddam just withdraw from Kuwait, allow the
- restoration of the former government and then negotiate a
- solution to his specific border disputes?
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- A. And go back to square one before the invasion? There was
- never a defined border; otherwise we wouldn't have had this
- problem in the first place. Somehow there has to be an
- understanding of where we end up. Also, as long as there is a
- threat of possible military action against Iraq by a strong
- hostile force, this is holding up the question of releasing
- what the Iraqis call guests and the rest of the world calls
- hostages. As long as there is a question of whether [others
- seek] the destruction of Iraq, this is the reason why the
- Iraqis are not beginning to move.
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- Q. Do you think the invasion was justified?
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- A. We have always stood against the occupation of
- territories by war, and certainly against annexations, and this
- is a principle we have applied across the board. But the
- tragedy in this case is that it all could have been avoided had
- some effort been made by the parties concerned, with Arab help,
- to resolve the problem peacefully.
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- Q. Has Saddam put his finger on one of the most important
- problems in the Middle East other than Palestine, namely the
- question of rich against poor?
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- A. After the dust settles, everyone will reassess this
- particular problem. There is a need to look at the issue of
- democracy and popular participation. Otherwise the area is
- vulnerable. I don't think things can return to what they were.
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- Q. Young Arabs especially see Saddam as a ray of hope to
- ease the pain many feel they suffer.
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- A. The pain is there because of the Palestinian problem.
- They also see weaknesses caused by threats and challenges from
- within the Arab community. They see a lack of cohesion. This
- is all causing frustration. Then they see in Saddam someone who
- managed to get his country together after eight years of
- terrible war and tremendous losses. They see that as an
- achievement. They also see Iraq as a potential model, with 17
- million people, with all its resources, calling for the use of
- these resources not for themselves but for others. Many Arabs
- would like to achieve a degree of respect in the world; they
- no longer want to be treated as inferior. Obviously there is
- a lot of anger, a lot of resentment and a determination to get
- out of this situation. I'm not saying there is one individual
- who could achieve all these hopes, but Iraq represents change.
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- Q. Does this crisis change your country?
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- A. Our hope is that everybody changes for the better. Jordan
- is an example. Everything is out in the open. We hear and feel
- what the people think. I'm sure the feelings are much more
- intense in other Arab states. The sparks could begin to fire
- at any time if people don't look at themselves and reassess.
- All of us need to do that.
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- Q. Does the criticism of longtime friends like Thatcher and
- Bush disturb you?
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- A. It causes me considerable pain, because I have never
- changed. I've always acted in what I believe is the interests
- of the Arab people. But we are living in a kind of world when
- at times there is this attitude -- at which I rather rebel --
- that you are either with us or against us. We should be
- partners.
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- Q. Jordan has suffered a great deal from this invasion.
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- A. Jordan is being punished for holding its head high and
- trying to contribute to a solution that makes sense.
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- Q. Well, shouldn't Saddam Hussein contribute toward a
- resolution of this problem, including financial aid to Jordan?
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- A. He should, yes. Iraq has helped us in the past. I don't
- know if they are able to in the present circumstances. But on
- the other hand, I don't know why Jordan should be punished for
- being an oasis of stability in the region for many, many years.
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- Q. In the minds of many people the image of Saddam Hussein
- is of a murderer and a torturer, a man who treats his own and
- other people with great brutality.
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- A. We are not all at the same level of development in terms
- of the problems and challenges we face. Iraq and the person of
- its President were subjected to a concerted effort to portray
- them in this [bad] way, and over a long period of time, not
- just since this crisis. Iraq has frightened some in this area
- to the point that they are saying something must be done about
- this new phenomenon. Only Saddam can correct this image.
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- I cannot defend, I cannot justify, and it is not my place
- to do so. Everyone in this world is ultimately responsible for
- what he does and for what he represents. Saddam hasn't
- addressed this problem adequately. He hasn't looked at the p.r.
- side of it. He needs to reassess so that the true image of Iraq
- -- if this is not the true image -- will emerge.
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